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主题 : 【评论】海外观众观扭三评论的翻译(嘟嘟相关和全剧)7月4日12楼更新
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【评论】海外观众观扭三评论的翻译(嘟嘟相关和全剧)7月4日12楼更新

不像各位GN写文做爱慕V填词作画那样油菜花,只能翻译一下海外观众对扭三的评论给GN们看看。评论来自一个海外很有名的三国论坛。我最近在翻译海外观众对扭三的评论,这篇是专门说嘟嘟临终的,翻得我快虐死了。来跟GN们分享一下。下面是某观众对第57、58集的评论。得到了英文原贴作者的转帖及翻译的许可。



先上原贴:


By Lady Wu:

Episode 57

R.I.P. Gongjin. I will love you forever.  

Also, I hate Kongming. This whole "killing without spilling blood" thing is way too nasty. I know, it's brilliant and all, but I'd hate him a lot less if he actually fought a real battle against Zhou Yu on the field and killed him. 

I think the series did a fantastic job showing gradually that Gongjin was not a egomaniac who cared only about his own ambitions. Although he seemed that way at first, before the gates of Nanjun/Jingzhou (by Mengde's Curly Beard I want to murder whoever did the geography research---or didn't) he ordered a retreat instead of taking by force what he desired for so long---for the sake of saving the soldiers. Then, in this episode, he swallowed the indignation and accepted Zhuge's offer---again, so that Southland soldiers wouldn't have to die for a vain cause. And finally, he revealed all on his deathbed, telling Sun Quan that he was only acting stubborn and tyrannical for the greater good of Wu---and because he knew that Sun Quan was broad-minded enough to handle it

Although Zhou Yu and Sun Quan appeared to be at odds with each other most of the time, they trusted each other for no other reason than that they knew it was the right thing to do, and the other person would give the same amount of trust back. Sure, it's been a political game at times, and Sun Quan did have to draw the line once or twice (like that time when he said "if he doesn't consider me his lord..." thing to Lu Su). However, the amount of trust between those two is just incredible. Sun Quan trusted that Zhou Yu wouldn't get Wu destroyed, and Zhou Yu trusted that Sun Quan wouldn't get him killed for insubordination, even though all external signs showed that Zhou Yu would get Wu burnt and that Sun Quan was uneasy about Zhou Yu's power. 

I don't think Sun Quan regretted investing all this power and trust into Gongjin. His only regret was that Gongjin was unable to agree with him on the particulars of the Southland's expansion strategy. *tissue time*

Speaking of the death scene, I am so impressed with all the little details in it. Zhou Yu's regular clothes were hung at the back of the room, which I thought was a nice touch. I don't recall any other sleep/sick/death scenes where you could so visibly see the clothes that the person wasn't wearing. Obviously if Zhou Yu was lying in bed he wasn't going to wear his full set of day clothes, but having all that behind Sun Quan seems to signify that Zhou Yu had put aside his pride, his power, his pretense, and was really addressing Sun Quan honestly and as himself. He was no longer the Handsome Master Zhou, Grand Commander of Wu, but just a dying man who wanted his inmost thoughts heard and appreciated.

The other nice piece in the set was the scroll by Zhou Yu's bed. Earlier on we've seen Zhou Yu obsessing over a scroll, which Zhou Yu described to Lu Meng as "a masterpiece by the greatest mind" (or something like that). We've inferred that he's talking about Zhuge Liang, but now it's made completely explicit. (Honestly, though, if they really wanted the audience to catch on to the title of the scroll, they really should NOT have used the Seal Script but instead the Clerical Script (隶书), which was more appropriate anyway. They made Cao Cao write a character in the Seal Script in ep 60, too, and that made me want to throw things across the room.)

The glances that Zhou Yu gave Lu Meng were also fantastic. Poor Ziming. I want to give him a hug. 

Episode 58

Can I say again I want to give Lu Meng a hug?

He's obviously disappointed that he wasn't named the next Grand Commander. But he trusted his beloved Gongjin and his lord so much that he graciously lent his complete support to Lu Su. Lu Meng's acting was superb through the funeral bit. He didn't have to say anything (I don't think he had lines?) but you can tell how sad, how dejected, and how furious he was.

This episode makes me really really want to kill Kongming. Though I have to say the acting is fantastic.

And finally, comic relief! Pang Tong! He and Zhang Fei = Best combination ever.

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荀彧(有智谋,善决断,狡猾但又忠义)
扭三令君的人设太糟心
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34楼  发表于: 2015-02-23  
直接挑了翻译的陆逊传看, 又哭了
It is a fact that those who have performed extraordinary deeds will be glorified with boundless honour, and he who is full of martial and governmental talents will be given the burdens of the country. - 夫有超世之功者,必应光大之宠;怀文武之才者,必荷社稷之重。
翻得真好
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33楼  发表于: 2014-04-11  
扭三中最喜欢嘟嘟了
不过,扭三中的嘟嘟是在太虐了
看嘟嘟临终时,虐的都哭了。。。。。
非瑜背诺,天不假年········
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32楼  发表于: 2013-12-21  
GN翻译辛苦了●▽●

不过我真是没想到原来国外也有人看啊【喂

很好奇他们是怎么看的

是电视上看还是和我们看日漫那样…………好吧,有有些语死早
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31楼  发表于: 2013-12-01  
回 4楼(最爱美洲狼) 的帖子
我就说真正的外国人应该不会去愿意理解三国这样复杂的斗争吧。虽然扭三仍然抹黑都督,但好歹在情感上去进行了一些挖掘
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30楼  发表于: 2012-08-08  
海外观众太给力啦~~~

周瑜透过孙权望向吕蒙的那几眼也妙极!可怜的子明。我真想抱抱他!


第58集

我能再说一遍么?好想抱抱吕蒙蒙!


我也好想抱抱哟~~
不过吴国的戏份神马的,在罗大的笔下,已经成为一片浮云,实在是太少啦
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29楼  发表于: 2012-08-07  
新三里东吴各种有爱,可惜戏份被删了不少怨念啊不知道是不是不删的话某些桥段会太腐了?斯基瞒也有爱,看到前面有海外观众说他没有人的感情非常不赞同,新三里瞒宫都快虐死我了.至于皇叔,不知道是不是笑傲江湖看多了总觉得皇叔有点像岳不群...
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28楼  发表于: 2011-09-01  
谢谢分享和翻译。楼主辛苦了~~
这些细节看得我眼睛涩涩的。。。。。。
楼主留言:
嚶嚶嚶,我翻的時候也是澀澀滴。。。細節最有愛啊!~
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